A little bit daft

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BBC NEWS | England | Tyne | Anglers reject rescue from pier

Was'nt any one from here was it.

[ecoli]

I know codling have been hard to catch over the last few years but is it worth your life , they should be named and shamed and made to pay a large fine not only did they risk their lives but also those trying to help them .

[KeithB]

That's right Paul, there's NO FISHING signs on the pier gate so I'm suprised they weren't made to leave. As you say they probably thought they were safe, although as we know, a lot of the marks we fish aren't but we fish there anyway.

[The Great Wallsendo]

...I've said it before and I'll say it again - we must get our own house in order first before anyone or body makes a stand against a licence - this sort of thing does us no favours at all...

How do we do that?

The odd few of us that care enough to say anything are few and far between.

Discussing it on a a forum is one thing - but there are thousands of anglers who don't use the web as a resource and there's even more who do but don't take part in any kind of dialogue - or dare I say even give a sh*t.

I'm not promoting apathy but what I am saying is that unless the licence can guarantee adequate "policing", there is always going to be antipathy towards this subject

[cod basher]

Policing won't come into the equation? Surely if the government are to introduce a licence scheme and charge the public for it then they are effectively taking charge of it, then responsibility by the government should automatically be accepted by them... sounds as though they are bullying us for our money and we get nothing in return!!! Or do we? Have I missed something on this debate?

[The Great Wallsendo]

If what you say is true then we should all reject the licence - as it's blatantly another excuse to impose a stealth tax on us

And regarding this instance the lads want shooting...at the very least there should have been the Plod waiting for a polite word at the end of the pier or even having their collars felt...complete waste of resources and money - just lucky that no one died

[cod basher]

What exactly do we get for our money? apart from a bonny coloured piece of paper with a few printed words on it that they will pass of as a licence?

Stating that licence costs will only cover administration leads one to believe not much cash should be left for tax collection. So what do the government get out of it and more importantly what do we get out of it?

[The Great Wallsendo]

here's a start...

Petition to: .We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister not to consider a sea angling strategy, sea angling license or any restrictions on sea angling without providing more and bigger fish first.

...although I feel it's lacking in substance...

If people like I could quite easily come up with a better worded petition - but not today...as I'm at work and I'm fishing the NESA Charity match tonight

[cod basher]

They get to double the licence fee the following year - thats what they will get out of it...!

Now I see what Mr Great mean't about stealth!!! Think I'm gonna start and vote for the monster raving loony party from now on!

Oh, and by the way Mr Great... good idea about the e-petition I've just signed it, shame it's electronic - I would have loved to deliver it by hand to Mr Brown!!!

[phill_itofish]

And regarding this instance the lads want shooting...at the very least there should have been the Plod waiting for a polite word at the end of the pier or even having their collars felt...complete waste of resources and money - just lucky that no one died

i cant say that i agree mate, have been caught out by the conditions many times, climbing in the lakes i've had to get the bivy bag out and take shelter till the weather has passed. snow boarding in austria i've been caught out in white outs for hours and have paddled out into massive seas surfing. i would hate to think that some one would be coming to 'rescue' me everytime the conditions got challenging. My question would be, who called the coast guard out? if they had wanted rescuing i'm sure they would have let someone know, we all carry mobile phones these days failing that a tourch to signal for help!!

[phill_itofish]

I'm almost sure these anglers would have seen a weather forecast before heading out?
so therefore would have been ready in anticipation of deteriorating conditions - but the fact still remains that they should not have been on there!

true, true

[Falcone]

well i actually went on seaham pier yesterday it was calm with only a very slight breeze when i first got on, then the wind started picking up after only 1 hour and i could see the swell starting to build from a northerly direction so i packed up and came off.
Not worth the risk at all.

[The Great Wallsendo]

Its a start mate, well done - but I would personally leave out the bit about providing fish!!!

...Oh, and by the way Mr Great... good idea about the e-petition I've just signed it, shame it's electronic - I would have loved to deliver it by hand to Mr Brown!!!

that one wasn't mine - it's already on there that someone else put on...goes to show there are others out there who give a monkeys though

[alan]

My question would be, who called the coast guard out? if they had wanted rescuing i'm sure they would have let someone know, we all carry mobile phones these days failing that a tourch to signal for help!!

maybe it was someone trying to be helpful that knows nothing about fishing marks
I bet you would phone the Coastguard if you thought someone was in the sh#t
It happens every year,hindsight is a wonderful thing

[Hedley]

3 things are going on here (1) these lads were trespassing and the resulting negative publicity from their actions places our sport and our ability to behave responsibly in a bad light (2) Access to Tynemouth Pier by resposible anglers belonging to Clubs with permision from Port of Tyne to fish it legally in daylight hours risks being removed as a consequence of their stupid and self centred actions (3) How dare they treat the emergency services with such contempt!!!! They should be named and shamed and expelled from their club - if they belong to one. Dick Heads!!!!!