scarboro and multipliers

[john/r]

dont realy know how to write this but here goes, scarboro reel with this set up you can use a heavy straight thro line, fishing gullies etc distance not too important i would of thought more importantly looking as to were to place bait,whinching power and lifting capabilities with scarborough must be a lot better than a multiplier, although outdated yes i know but why is there just use multipliers for rough ground i cannot help but think some of these outdated reels must still have a use distance is,nt always neccessary what do you think
john

[willywetegg]

Stores is your man for the Scarbro's John, it is all he uses mate, successfully too.

Jim.

[john/r]

hi jim ,exactly thats the point i,m making
john

[Lowrider]

Down to people wanting to put the time in to learn.
I have only used a s/bro once,on a boat,got in a mess with it there.
So i assume it would take some learning to cast even a short distance well.

[Charlton]

no longer that it takes to get used to a multiplier, all those birds nests or short casts before you got it set up right, same with the old Scarborough. Advatages of a Scarborough, retrieve you get the fish out the weeds and in clear water with the first couple of turns, whereas with a multiplier its a struggle most of the way. As for casting, quite a few of the lads who used to use them on the NE could hit 100yards, more than enough for round here. If you look at the way the lead flies during the casting swing of a Scarborugh, it is the same as a pendulum cast, that is prodably why you could get so far with that type of equipment. Only thing with a Scraborough, you quite often rapped your fingers, nearly took the end of my litle finger off once when it went through the holes, and you had to be careful for the guys standing next to you. Something I have always wondered is why the Alvey reel, so popular in Sth Africa and Australia, never caught on here, got the retrieve of a Scarborough and the casting ability of a fixed spool.

[Topfly]

Me and my dad used to fish with them. He made the rods out of greenheart and you could put the lead a good distance, Those days distance was not required. One thing i remember is when you hooked a fish. you always felt in control no matter what size it was, unlike with today's gear even when you get your fish right in it can still go to ground. After saying that there are loads of places to fish with a scarborough but if i fish them i use a penn 535 & heavy line

[Topfly]

Dead on Alan....

[john/r]

think the problems with alveys is line twist plus the need for biggish rings,with scarborough reels my mate used them a lot he winds in with the line coming over the top of the reel wereas most i think have the line coming on the reel from the btm winding in clockwise my mate says winding in backwards line on top you are in more control
john

[Topfly]

That's the way i remember them with the line staying paralell to the rod and controlling the speed of the reel with the finger on the inside of the back of the reel. hope this helps.

[alan]

When my dad took me fishing thats what he used,it looked like a art to chucking it out if i remember rightly it was sort of a backcast,I cant recall the distances but went a fair way out and that was off Cambois Pier.Alan i remember a few swear words from him when he caught his fingers......Happy days
He still wishes he kept them,I believe he gave them away for nothing with his Greenheart Rods

[big_sean]

Alvey

Hi all

i have an alvey and a great reel it is easy to use and great for off cliffs etc
they have just released a geared vesion that gives a ratio of 2.1 to 1 and considering the size of the drum then that is a fast retrive

the need for realy big rings isnt that important as when i had my longbeach made up i just had the first couple put on a little bigger than normal and it performs great on there and so does a multiplyer

if you want to have a look at the full alvey range have a look on here

Alvey Reels Australia. Alvey Fishing Reels. Australian made center pin side cast fishing reels. 100% Australian made fishing tackle since 1920.

Sean

[Davey.adair]

Are these reels the same or similar to the ones called sidewinder, which were available around the late 70s/ early 80s, if I remember right there never took off over here.

Remember using scarborough reels and split cane rods on my granda's boat as a kid, they were a doddle to use.

[Stores]

Like most we started with greenheart rods and centre pin reels, upgrading to the oil bath scarboros and fibre glass rods I use now. To your original poser John - yes they're ideal for the rock ends around the NE where 100 yards is often too far rather than too short and they do tend to be better at "bullying" fish through the weirs. I also think they're easier to lob 15 / 20 yards than a multiplier, based on seeing people at work with them.
The down side is two fold, I think. Firstly, like most scarboro users, I fish heavy line straight through and in windy conditions, or with weed on the line, or when you want to use a spider they are heavy and hard to control.
Secondly the only time I have ever packed in and gone home 'cos I couldn't fish while others were was on Blyth beach. It was the flood tide and everyone was washed out of the gullies that run parallel with the shore at low water, at the Astley Arms. There was a big roll on and I just couldn't cast far enough to reach the hole, nor could I stop my sinker skeeting along the sands and tangling up with everyone else. It is then that the long casters come into their own and there were loads of fish either side of me. Sometimes, in the Open comps, it's that extra distance, especially in poor conditions, that makes the difference.
On the other side I can count on one hand the number of over runs or birds nests I've been unable to get out and carry on fishing and for you Lowrider....here is the instruction manual as passed down through the family........

Finger on.................

Swing.....................

Finger off................

Whoosh ya..............

Finger on (brake)......

Rod on toe..............

[Charlton]

john/r the reason the line twists when loading a alvey or fixed spool is that the line has been put on the wrong way from the spool.

[Topfly]

Nice one Dave