Doggies on the beaches?

[The Great Wallsendo]

I'm not talking about the four legged variety or even the car park species either....

While in Wales I tried ledgered sandeel on the bottom - which resulted in my first dogfish...

My tactics were light though - I hadn't blasted a six ounce lead with a clipped down bait wired on with reams of bait elastic - I was using a 10ft spinner with 40g of lead, a small aberdeen and the sandeel was hooked once/twice through the head etc coupled with a slow retrive every minute or so to keep the bait moving around.

Two questions i suppose:

A) Would this tactic work on the Norths beaches? (don't see why it shouldn't)

B) Do we get dogfish from these shores?

I must admit I liked this style of fishing (especially for the summer) as i was able to pack light and carry everything in a small rucksack while wandering around rocks/beaches etc

[Stuey]

Not sure about dogfish, but sounds like an excellent tactic for bass off our shoreline or even the chance of a decent flattie. Factor in the light tackle and the sporting opportunity this brings, and it would seem an excellent proposition.

regards

Stu

[Charlie_Thompson]

I'm not talking about the four legged variety or even the car park species either....

While in Wales I tried ledgered sandeel on the bottom - which resulted in my first dogfish...

My tactics were light though - I hadn't blasted a six ounce lead with a clipped down bait wired on with reams of bait elastic - I was using a 10ft spinner with 40g of lead, a small aberdeen and the sandeel was hooked once/twice through the head etc coupled with a slow retrive every minute or so to keep the bait moving around.

Two questions i suppose:

A) Would this tactic work on the Norths beaches? (don't see why it shouldn't)

B) Do we get dogfish from these shores?

I must admit I liked this style of fishing (especially for the summer) as i was able to pack light and carry everything in a small rucksack while wandering around rocks/beaches etc

A. No it wouldn't (normally) but you might get lucky

B. No Dogfish up here really.

Apart from the british shore caught record I had a while back off Roker pier. It's not the first time i've peddled this tale and will certainly not be the last.

I had Bull Huss / Spurdog in my mind as it whirled around trying to sandpaper my arms and lick my face. I hoyed it back of course. If it was and LSD then it could have been a biggun -

[The Great Wallsendo]

A. No it wouldn't (normally) but you might get lucky

Why not?

[gazzawill]

i think it would work we have dog fish caught every summer from our peir.
starting from june to late november
seaham peir that is

[Charlie_Thompson]

A lot of lads and lasses have spent a lot of time fishing our little bit of coast. Over that time a few tactics and that have been developed which we kind of stick to and tinker around the edges of because they work. Freelining sandeels works well off Chesil beach in December, dragging a huge lure off the back of a boat in Florida might get you a bite. Like it or lump it - shorefishing off the NE coast demands a particular type of approach. One that has been well described on NESA. Try fly fishing off mark 44 - you may catch a fish one day but ffs

[Charlie_Thompson]

Why not?

You go flinging sandeels around and prove me wrong. Do you think we throw stupidly huge worm baits into the sea in the dead of winter for some kind of laugh?

[The Great Wallsendo]

You go flinging sandeels around and prove me wrong. Do you think we throw stupidly huge worm baits into the sea in the dead of winter for some kind of laugh?

Not at all mate - but sometimes i do think that the mindset of some North East Anglers is set in stone when it comes to tactics....winter is not the only season for fishing, so surely trying lighter tactics in the summer fills in the "gap"...why should you just be limited to flattie bashing the estuaries or macky bashing off the piers? Also - now I've started - Cod is not the only fish in the sea!!!!

I'm going to give it a go....if I blank, I blank but at least it's another option to lugging over 20lb of kit a mile from a car park

[Charlie_Thompson]

bit of a bad mood last night sorry

[Blanketyblank]

I'm not talking about the four legged variety or even the car park species either....

While in Wales I tried ledgered sandeel on the bottom - which resulted in my first dogfish...

My tactics were light though - I hadn't blasted a six ounce lead with a clipped down bait wired on with reams of bait elastic - I was using a 10ft spinner with 40g of lead, a small aberdeen and the sandeel was hooked once/twice through the head etc coupled with a slow retrive every minute or so to keep the bait moving around.

Two questions i suppose:

A) Would this tactic work on the Norths beaches? (don't see why it shouldn't)

B) Do we get dogfish from these shores?

I must admit I liked this style of fishing (especially for the summer) as i was able to pack light and carry everything in a small rucksack while wandering around rocks/beaches etc

I would never say never to different tactics,ive tried float fishing in the Tyne down at the old Bergen key and Smiths Dock with alot of success catching coalies codling and flounder.I laughed one day when the 6oz Beachcaster brigade turned up and laughed at me floatfishing down the side.I had about 20 Coalies 4 codling and a flounder.They ended up fishing down the side holding a 12" Beachcaster like a spinning rod.They who last laugh EH!.I read in the chronicle last summer a guy had a couple of nice bass from the Sharpness Tynemouth shot boat fishing close in.He was spinning for mackeral and they hopped on i think his best was 8lb.I went float fishing on a big 5.6 HW tide ebbing casting out from the prom at King Eddies bay using ragworm and sandeel.I had two schoolies 2.5lb and a 4lb cod this is a method i wouldn't really use on the North East coast but it has proved to be successful.With the Doggies showing more frequently on our coast i don't say how you couldn't catch one using normal ledgered sandeel or mackeral.Just like conger fishing from the rocks up at Burnmouth, Eyemouth, and Newton.I have had a go with a second rod fishing close in and had conger to 8lb from the mentioned marks not enough people try different methods they stick to what they think catches them fish the tried and tested chuck out and chance it...

[The Great Wallsendo]

I would never say never to different tactics,ive tried float fishing in the Tyne down at the old Bergen key and Smiths Dock with alot of success catching coalies codling and flounder.I laughed one day when the 6oz Beachcaster brigade turned up and laughed at me floatfishing down the side.I had about 20 Coalies 4 codling and a flounder.They ended up fishing down the side holding a 12" Beachcaster like a spinning rod.They who last laugh EH!.I read in the chronicle last summer a guy had a couple of nice bass from the Sharpness Tynemouth shot boat fishing close in.He was spinning for mackeral and they hopped on i think his best was 8lb.I went float fishing on a big 5.6 HW tide ebbing casting out from the prom at King Eddies bay using ragworm and sandeel.I had two schoolies 2.5lb and a 4lb cod this is a method i wouldn't really use on the North East coast but it has proved to be successful.With the Doggies showing more frequently on our coast i don't say how you couldn't catch one using normal ledgered sandeel or mackeral.Just like conger fishing from the rocks up at Burnmouth, Eyemouth, and Newton.I have had a go with a second rod fishing close in and had conger to 8lb from the mentioned marks not enough people try different methods they stick to what they think catches them fish the tried and tested chuck out and chance it...

Hallo mate - welcome to NESA...yeah I think there is sometimes too much emphasis on lobbing huge baits 200yds and sitting and waiting...it has it's place, but what's wrong with trying different more "unusual" tactics?

Can you teach old dogs new tricks? prob not - some peoples mindset will never change...me? I'm open to owt new....

[codseeker]

hi mate welcome to the site

[Blanketyblank]

Hallo mate - welcome to NESA...yeah I think there is sometimes too much emphasis on lobbing huge baits 200yds and sitting and waiting...it has it's place, but what's wrong with trying different more "unusual" tactics?

Can you teach old dogs new tricks? prob not - some peoples mindset will never change...me? I'm open to owt new....

Hi Cheers for the welcome,i wouldn't change the tried and tested method of basic fishing but what alot of people are doing now is fishing with two rods.One fishes the normal method of a bottom fished paternoster.The other has a large mackeral bait/big squid bait.Even putting a wire biting trace on this just in case a critter with sharp teeth turns up.I have seen people be rewarded fishing like this and fishing close in for BIG bass who are partial to big baits.If its calm weather etc take a float/spinning rod and get a float fished bait out and you may pick up a nice pollack or wrasse.While fishing on the rock ends or pier it beats casting large leads anyday.

[TerryC]

LSD's used to be taken regular from Browns Bay - mid 1980's usually late summer.

TC

[The Great Wallsendo]

LSD's used to be taken regular from Browns Bay - mid 1980's usually late summer.

TC

Really? you sure it wasn't the summer of '69 and San Francisco Bay?

I've just been in Johns Tackle Wallsend and had a chat with the lads and they reckon there's doggies and even Rays being caught off Blyth Pier!! can anyone dispute that?