Multiplier reel advice

[berwick]

Alright lads. I am thinking of upgrading my gear soon and i am making the leap from fixed spool to multiplier. Only been fishing a short while but have put effort into ironing out my casting so much smoother and more controlled than when i first set out with considerable distance gains. I am after some advice and thoughts on a good multiplier

I will be using the reel for both beach and rough ground work so a reel that while might not excel at either but is pretty good at both. Im thinking 30lbs mono line. Also advice about the benefits of mag reels. Me being a newcomer to the multi would these reels have benefit of greater control?

Been looking at ABU 6500 C3 Mag, Penn 535 mag 2, Diawa SL30SH etc. Leaning towards ABU's offerings at the min

Any thoughts/ advice most appreciated. Cheers

[Geordie_G]

Hi matey

Cant go wrong with a second hand saltist 30, swedish built 80s or 90s 7500 or 7000, or an original slosh 30 in cenifugal form for ease of use and unlikely to over run as you adjust to a multiplier.

If your feeling a bit more flush.... the Akios 757 ct with mag control is a wonderful reel or its TFG equivilent (they are made in same factory)

Avoid the more more recent chinese/thai pure fishing era abu 7000`s with mags, as they are made with inferior internal parts. Id also avoid the gold spool slosh`s unless they are magged up as they run fast can be be a bit firey jack with jerky casts.

[berwick]

Cheers Geordie. I notice one of your reels is an Abu 7500C3 level wind. How do you find these level wind systems? Obviously as a novice to multiplier use the idea appeals to me but i have read they seriously hamper casting distance. What do you make of them?

[TerryC]

Alright lads. I am thinking of upgrading my gear soon and i am making the leap from fixed spool to multiplier. Only been fishing a short while but have put effort into ironing out my casting so much smoother and more controlled than when i first set out with considerable distance gains. I am after some advice and thoughts on a good multiplier

I will be using the reel for both beach and rough ground work so a reel that while might not excel at either but is pretty good at both. Im thinking 30lbs mono line. Also advice about the benefits of mag reels. Me being a newcomer to the multi would these reels have benefit of greater control?

Been looking at ABU 6500 C3 Mag, Penn 535 mag 2, Diawa SL30SH etc. Leaning towards ABU's offerings at the min

Any thoughts/ advice most appreciated. Cheers

Hi,

One of the most difficult thing about moving from a fixed spool to a multiplier is getting a good even lay of line, if you struggle to do this your casting could really suffer.
On that basis I would agree with Geordie_G with the choice of an older 7500 or 7000 with a level wind from ABU, especially with 30lb line.
As you become more proficient it is an easy step by step conversion to remove the level wind then convert to a CT frame later.

Good luck,

TC

[Geordie_G]

in terms of like for like against my CT non level wind eqivilents then it does run a tiny bit slower, and as a result casts 10 to 30 yards less depending on the power or conditions. But - this ever so slightly slower running makes it makes it fool proof, very smooth and ideal for windy days and night fishing or for short casts or when casting of slippey rock ends when you can get a bit wonky due to not having a good foot hole.

[g-force]

Levelwinds & leader knots don't mix - unless you use tapered leaders. With a 60/70lb leader the knot will often catch on the level wind when casting and worse, it'll often lay the knot right under your thumb when you wind in. Without the level wind you can tuck the knot to one side of the spool before casting, where it won't take a chunk out of your thumb! Wouldn't be as much of an issue with heavy line straight through, but if you were to go on clean beaches you wouldn't want to be using 30lb or so line - something like 15-18lb will catch a lot less tide and get you more distance should you need it - but you'll then need the shock leader.

I'd go along with suggestions of a Slosh, Saltist or even an old 525mag (though they hold a lot less 30lb line) as a good all rounder - start with a bigger one and if necessary get another, smaller reel for the beaches (something like a Daiwa 7HT). Not much of an Abu fan these days - as others have said the current crop of reels are pretty tatty compared to the ones I had back in the early 80s.

Gary

[Nooo Fish]

I've not long switched to a multiplier. I went for a akios 651 CSM (lefty, magged and level wind.) and the reel is great. I haven't had any problems with leader knots so far I use a uni to uni knott on a tapered leader.

I'm thinking about a non level wind reel now but I want a bigger reel and there's only Abu does a left hander so I think I'm gonna have to learn to reel right handed.

[codcatcher3000]

im sure akios has a good left hand range ^

[berwick]

Thanks to all for the advice.

If its just a case of 10-30 yard loss in distance for casting range vs the benefits Geordie mentioned I might go for that option. I do a fair bit more fishing from rock marks where distance isn't an issue and night time fishing so might be best as suggested to go for this and then get conversion.

Might even get a second reel as I progress with multi (non-level wind) and use this for clean ground with lighter line, keep the level wind for rock/ night and second rod at shorter range.

Nooo Fish are you noticing much difference in the switch from fixed spool? Casting distance/ cranking power etc.

[glenn]

Hi Berwick, I live in Beadnell your welcome to come down and try my reels I have a slosh 30, 525 mag, 535, and a 7ht let me know.

[InCodweTrust]

Don't rule out the old Abu's

Levelwinds & leader knots don't mix - unless you use tapered leaders. With a 60/70lb leader the knot will often catch on the level wind when casting and worse, it'll often lay the knot right under your thumb when you wind in. Without the level wind you can tuck the knot to one side of the spool before casting, where it won't take a chunk out of your thumb! Wouldn't be as much of an issue with heavy line straight through, but if you were to go on clean beaches you wouldn't want to be using 30lb or so line - something like 15-18lb will catch a lot less tide and get you more distance should you need it - but you'll then need the shock leader.

I'd go along with suggestions of a Slosh, Saltist or even an old 525mag (though they hold a lot less 30lb line) as a good all rounder - start with a bigger one and if necessary get another, smaller reel for the beaches (something like a Daiwa 7HT). Not much of an Abu fan these days - as others have said the current crop of reels are pretty tatty compared to the ones I had back in the early 80s.

Gary

Couldn't agree more with Gary's reccomendations, but don't rule out the old Abu 7000c, there are still a few good examples on fleabay, and are reasonably priced. You can drop the brakes out as you progress, and with a switch to light oils, can be tuned to cast a very reasonable distance.They also have a proven longevity which some of the new Abu's, and others, can't even approach, defo. stay well away from some of them. Comes with level wind, and as you get better you can remove the levelwind easily, and cheaply. If you can cast one of them to the spool, when filled with a decent 30lb line, you will be a far better man than me ...Gunga din !
( They actually go better with only the line you can cast + a % for safety, you can fill them too much which hampers your distance, and cause blow ups!).
Also they maintain there second hand value, should you want to upgrade ?
Go to reels: 7000c big baits, 525 slideys worm and distance.

Get some lessons....I need to !
Mel.....

[Nooo Fish]

Nooo Fish are you noticing much difference in the switch from fixed spool? Casting distance/ cranking power etc.

I'm not sure about distance mate cos I've done all my fishing at night. I prefer casting a multi over FS though. There's more cranking power in the multi but it takes longer to reel in. It's nice to have the option of both cos my FS is lovely with braid on.

Hope this helps mate.

[Nooo Fish]

im sure akios has a good left hand range ^

They do a few mate but they are all the same capacity as an Abu 6500. I'm after something more like an abu7000/ penn 535

[g-force]

Couldn't agree more with Gary's reccomendations, but don't rule out the old Abu 7000c, there are still a few good examples on fleabay, and are reasonably priced. You can drop the brakes out as you progress, and with a switch to light oils, can be tuned to cast a very reasonable distance.They also have a proven longevity which some of the new Abu's, and others, can't even approach, defo. stay well away from some of them. Comes with level wind, and as you get better you can remove the levelwind easily, and cheaply. If you can cast one of them to the spool, when filled with a decent 30lb line, you will be a far better man than me ...Gunga din !
( They actually go better with only the line you can cast + a % for safety, you can fill them too much which hampers your distance, and cause blow ups!).
Also they maintain there second hand value, should you want to upgrade ?
Go to reels: 7000c big baits, 525 slideys worm and distance.

Get some lessons....I need to !
Mel.....

I just recently serviced an old, original (although it had been converted with a CT bar) 7000c for a friend - it had had a hammering largely from abuse on the boat, the handle was wobbling and the ratchet didn't work properly. After a thorough strip down & clean I was amazed how well the original bearings were still running - they were good as new after re-lubing and everything tightened up nicely again. Just a shame ABU no longer build any of their reels to the same standard

[mick dunn]

u must be a rarity moving from fixed spool to multiplier. A lot of my mates are all converting to fixed spools-including myself. Penn 8000. I have one as a xmas pressie and look forwards to using-mind I am not giving up on my multipliers. I have a Penn 525 for mixed ground and a Abu 7000 with level wind for heavy ground. All 3 mentioned reels will be coming with me to Norway next Feb.
Mick.