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  • #16
    i wreckon when fishing is like that pennel is the one if you can get away with it. normal rig (not pulley) two hooks which are good size compared to the bait up.

    also i find when the rotten bottom link is too weak that can result in missed fish. need a bit resistance for the hook to jab the fishes mouth- ideal from a grip lead.

    like the lads say when its flat this happens more. and dont take the bait positive.
    lobsters are terible when the seas flat down the chems- there bites are the same as a good cod sometimes!

    i use cart a lot with tights- loads of missed bites on single hooks.
    have learned only to use a pennel now with the cart in tights and wrap mussel or crab around it- less missed bites for me now.. the tights just seem to get ripped to shreads from the fish, a bit mussel over the top seems to sort it out with a big top pennel hook.

    if a single hook is the only way in really dense kelp i use a weaker rottom bottom which is not ideal for hook up.
    also i now wrap copper cable around the hook with a small bit sticking out. a bit like the piggy back hooks from veals, this is a good way to get more hook ups i wreckon on a single hook as it allows you to present the bait lower down without covering the hook. does work like.


    all about the right balance between hook up and avoiding the snags innit.

    only my opinion- just 2 times a week kelp fishing for years all year and ya learn a thing or two
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    • #17
      not fish the comp alan?
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      • #18
        No Dean, diddnt fancy it.
        I use wired hooks when I'm using crab clipped down, stops it blowing up the snood off the hook.
        I'm waiting for the sea to come away midweek,
        Any fish coming out ya back garden?
        Stay safe!
        Enjoy your fishing!
        Take your rubbish home!
        Rocker.

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        • #19
          Good point Rocker that if a fish pulls your tip right over that should`ve been enough to set the hook- thats what i couldnt work out was why there was no fish on after such strong pulls ........... Does anyone ever hook lobsters or crabs after a big pull down ?

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          • #20
            I caught two lobsters in one cast at the beacons couple weeks ago, after getting missed bites.
            they seem more active when the seas flat.
            Up your hook size to make sure the points exposed, and wire hooks to ensure bait can't slip down masking the point, also buy a good hook sharpener and use it regularly. I use 6/0 big mouth extras.
            Stay safe!
            Enjoy your fishing!
            Take your rubbish home!
            Rocker.

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            • #21
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              Last edited by Guest; 01-09-2014, 08:21 AM.

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              • #22
                Add Chemicaly sharpened hooks, a point of resistance (sinker) and an alert angler and you would have a hooked fish.
                Stay safe!
                Enjoy your fishing!
                Take your rubbish home!
                Rocker.

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                • #23
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                  Last edited by Guest; 01-09-2014, 08:20 AM.

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                  • #24
                    You won't hook every fish, there's too many variables
                    Stay safe!
                    Enjoy your fishing!
                    Take your rubbish home!
                    Rocker.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Rocker View Post
                      No Dean, diddnt fancy it.
                      I use wired hooks when I'm using crab clipped down, stops it blowing up the snood off the hook.
                      I'm waiting for the sea to come away midweek,
                      Any fish coming out ya back garden?
                      was poor like on roker pier, thought maybe chance a tidal fish near the bunker. crap.

                      as for the back garden, am selling passes for any one who wants to fish it. tenna a shot, or just send me a pm and i will email
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                      • #26
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                        Last edited by Guest; 01-09-2014, 08:20 AM.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Deans View Post
                          was poor like on roker pier, thought maybe chance a tidal fish near the bunker. crap.

                          as for the back garden, am selling passes for any one who wants to fish it. tenna a shot, or just send me a pm and i will email
                          Haha, I might need a couple of pointers for next month mate
                          Stay safe!
                          Enjoy your fishing!
                          Take your rubbish home!
                          Rocker.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by DurhamAngler View Post
                            Good point Rocker that if a fish pulls your tip right over that should`ve been enough to set the hook- thats what i couldnt work out was why there was no fish on after such strong pulls ........... Does anyone ever hook lobsters or crabs after a big pull down ?

                            big pull down doesnt mean you should be setting the hook
                            sometimes its just unlucky. innit lads- improve your chances....yes

                            chukka made a good point about long snoods.
                            Last edited by Deans; 17-11-2013, 09:29 PM.
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                            • #29
                              Found this today if you want to see the pull from a lobster. Fast forward to 1.59

                              How many different species can you identify?Watch in 1080p HD for the best results. This edited footage was not obtained from an aquarium but from rocks near...
                              Last edited by loopy; 22-11-2013, 01:46 PM.

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                              • #30
                                Had a similair problem at Blyth beach last night. Had four good knocks using a pulley, was in to the first one which was a very good fish but lost it almost straight away. Missed two other solid knocks too. Got one out just over 4lb but should've been much better. Think it might be the pulley rig.

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