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    When fishing heavy ground I always use a rotten bottom, an upside down genie clip. However I know some very good anglers seldom use them. So what's people's take on this, I'm intrigued.

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  • #2
    I never use them, A lot of the time you can pull out of a snag and still have your hook, lead & fish attached, Using rb's you will more than likely lose your lead every other cast even in the lightest of snags

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    • #3
      Worth remembering that more often than not it is your hook that gets snagged not the lead
      Last edited by Motorhead; 29-10-2013, 06:03 PM. Reason: Spelling mistake

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      • #4
        I use rotten bottoms in heavy ground as why risk losing the fish of a lifetime for the sake of a lead

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        • #5
          me to

          Originally posted by topbanana View Post
          When fishing heavy ground I always use a rotten bottom, an upside down genie clip. However I know some very good anglers seldom use them. So what's people's take on this, I'm intrigued.

          cheers.
          personaly also use them myself, even over semi rough ground.like your self had many a fish out minis lead thanks to rotten bottom system.but there again say 30-35lb straight threw somethings got to give.imo why lose the lot when rottom bottom in theory should do a better job.TIGHT LINES.hahaha.mr DEAN

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          • #6
            Rotten bottoms all the time for me, never leave landing a fish of a life time
            to the flip off a coin, ill try and stack the odds in my favour.
            If my hook snaggs, theres a damn good chance there aint a monster cod
            hanging off it !!
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            • #7
              good comment

              Originally posted by big phil 123 View Post
              I use rotten bottoms in heavy ground as why risk losing the fish of a lifetime for the sake of a lead
              thats the way to look at it,for the loss of a lead,or even a potatoe. as report in SEA ANGLING REPORTS.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Motorhead View Post
                Worth remembering that more often than not it is your hook that gets snagged not the lead
                Sorry but have to disagree, I have lost a lead way more times than I have lost a hook, chances are a fish of a lifetime has more chance of running into a snag than a small 5-6oz lead has, just my opinion

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                • #9
                  depends

                  Originally posted by OuTkast76 View Post
                  I never use them, A lot of the time you can pull out of a snag and still have your hook, lead & fish attached, Using rb's you will more than likely lose your lead every other cast even in the lightest of snags
                  ok, so say you have 30lb r/b then say 40lb hook trace,what should give first? why take the risk for as quoted for a lead .think this threat is a case of is black better than white,but we all know red @ white wins all the time GET IN.

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                  • #10
                    In Daniel willis's st abbs report he said that he used 50lb straight through, to a 3-way swivel with a 50lb hook snood and 30lb to the weight.

                    I like the sound of that system - if the hook snags, it's gonna bend out before anything snaps, and if the lead snags, youve got a good chance of pulling it out, but if it is stuck fast then the 30lb should snap. (if the swivel snags I suppose the main line will snap at the swivel).

                    Ive already loaded my slosh 30 with 50lb line and will be giving it a try for myself this weekend.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by regpude View Post
                      ok, so say you have 30lb r/b then say 40lb hook trace,what should give first? why take the risk for as quoted for a lead .think this threat is a case of is black better than white,but we all know red @ white wins all the time GET IN.
                      I use 40lb straight through on rock marks, 30lb rb isnt exactly weak and will take some snapping but to answer your question common sense says the 30lb should give first but it all depends on knot strength or if the hook bends out etc etc, Im intrigued to know exactly how many of you have caught a fish of a lifetime through using a rb?

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                      • #12
                        I've just started using them on my last session but I was wondering if anyone uses a stronger one with something like 40lb mainline 70lb shock leader with 25/30lb on the weak link. Just cos it didn't take much pull to snap the lead off. Or would the bs being closer together risk loosing the lot anyway.
                        All the gear, no idea.

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                        • #13
                          Never used them and never will never had a fish of a lifetime and 2 bloody laz and stubborn cheers if this helps
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by OuTkast76 View Post
                            I use 40lb straight through on rock marks, 30lb rb isnt exactly weak and will take some snapping but to answer your question common sense says the 30lb should give first but it all depends on knot strength or if the hook bends out etc etc, Im intrigued to know exactly how many of you have caught a fish of a lifetime through using a rb?
                            Had a few doubles on rotten bottoms

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by big phil 123 View Post
                              Had a few doubles on rotten bottoms
                              3 doubles and on each occasion the rb snapped?

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