questions please

[codnot]

I know it seems arrogant i dont mean it too but I am sure mr Milliband will be able to (if you ask him nicely) take some more of my hard earned cash from me as a bloke who choses to be single and have no kids and give it to you so that it makes you better of and buys your vote for labour at the next election.

Labour frustrates me so much as all they do for me is take take take and never give me anything at all back. They are orientated towards low income families which is fair enough but why should i constantly pay for the lifestyle choices of others? I chose not to have kids so i can live the life i want to, I pay for it myself, so why should others not pay for the lifestyle they choose?

I will probably get slated for this post but dont get me wrong I have sympathy for those who have fallen on hard times through no fault of their own and are genuinely needy i just get annoyed by the many many people i see who regard it as a lifestyle choice (almost a profession) to sponge off the state at the expense of others.

I am not referring to anyone on here just the general state of our disgrace of a country!

it is not a lifestyle choice m8 lost a high paying job when my kids got taken of ther mam & left with me!!

[jamiebrennan]

All valid questions but all i would like to know is Why, Where, When and the reasoning behind it?

[insanojackson]

it is not a lifestyle choice m8 lost a high paying job when my kids got taken of ther mam & left with me!!

Like i said I wasnt referring to you inperticular, I understand your situation. Unfortunately for millions of nerdowells it is a lifestyle choice.

[willywetegg]

As Graham has already asked, what do these questions have to do with fishing.

Maybe if I try to ask on Grahams behalf it would help, I doubt it but I will try.

If you have any questions you would like to ask Mr. Miliband about fishing then please post them here.

If it is not about fishing then please don't bother. I will go through this thread tomorrow and delete anything that is not fishing related. If you have a problem with that then please get in touch with Fern Britton and Phillip Schofield in the morning and they will sort out your problems.

Jim.

[Stores]

Don't blame you for doing what you're going to do Jim but thanks for allowing us to let off steam. Shows the feelings of the members and often the opportunity to go fishing is tied up with other non fishing criteria.

[PAUL.S.HARRISON.SNR]

more support

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/dir/;_ylt=AvCNwQ6tv0RaktJUoL6yNHoGBgx.?link=list&sid=396545444

try this link same question about miliband others have a voice not all from fishing

[Charlie_Thompson]

Sless, if you get the chance could you ask him why the commercials are pandered to even when their activities in many people's opinions will very quickly lead to the complete disappearance of Cod from our waters. On the other hand we are being asked to begin paying more money for greater restriction on what we are involved in - a sport / hobby / tradition that has loads of great things associated with it, An intimate appreciation of our coastline and wildlife, an opportunity to relax in peace alone or with like minded friends, the technical challenges of casting and rig tying, wreck drifting and tackle choice, the connections it allows us to make with our kids and other young people away from the problems associated with urban life and commercial pressure. The chance it gives many of us to continue learning and benefit from the experience and stories of anglers older than ourselves. The sheer pleasure of getting home to a cup of tea after enduring sometimes horrendous conditions and demanding treks to get to our marks - And on the odd occasion the complete and utter total buzz the act of actually catching one of the blighters.

You might like to add that Sea anglers contribute vastly more to the economy than the commercial white fish industry, I think its 100's of millions v's a billion plus.

It's fecking madness

My guess is it has something to do with voices of a little gang of professional commercial lobbyists representing the few remaining big boys being heard by The Politicians on account of them hanging out in the same sleazy spots (Parliament and that) the word coming out of working mens clubs and canteens is NEVER listened to because they are NEVER there to hear it.

Cheers, let me know what he says

[fishfinder]

Sless, if you get the chance could you ask him why the commercials are pandered to even when their activities in many people's opinions will very quickly lead to the complete disappearance of Cod from our waters. On the other hand we are being asked to begin paying more money for greater restriction on what we are involved in - a sport / hobby / tradition that has loads of great things associated with it, An intimate appreciation of our coastline and wildlife, an opportunity to relax in peace alone or with like minded friends, the technical challenges of casting and rig tying, wreck drifting and tackle choice, the connections it allows us to make with our kids and other young people away from the problems associated with urban life and commercial pressure. The chance it gives many of us to continue learning and benefit from the experience and stories of anglers older than ourselves. The sheer pleasure of getting home to a cup of tea after enduring sometimes horrendous conditions and demanding treks to get to our marks - And on the odd occasion the complete and utter total buzz the act of actually catching one of the blighters.

You might like to add that Sea anglers contribute vastly more to the economy than the commercial white fish industry, I think its 100's of millions v's a billion plus.

It's fecking madness

My guess is it has something to do with voices of a little gang of professional commercial lobbyists representing the few remaining big boys being heard by The Politicians on account of them hanging out in the same sleazy spots (Parliament and that) the word coming out of working mens clubs and canteens is NEVER listened to because they are NEVER there to hear it.

Cheers, let me know what he says

Excellent mate very well put !!!

[Oblickta]

Hi Graham, could you please ask:

"if it all goes t*ts up on us and, in 3 years from now there is little or no change, will there be any provision for sea anglers to challenge the governments incompetence?"

Cheers mate and good luck on the day

[Charlie_Thompson]

Hi Graham, could you please ask:

"if it all goes t*ts up on us and, in 3 years from now there is little or no change, will there be any provision for sea anglers to challenge the governments incompetence?"

Cheers mate and good luck on the day

Graham, one cannot say tits in front of a governmetor the word is "bilateral lung unit (milk 0.45) Gender differentiator" s

[davem2005]

When Graham first posted this as an opportunity for us here in the NE to ask a question to David Miliband it immediately struck me that there is only one question that he ought to ask. Time is important to an MP and he is unlikely to be prepared to spend 2 or three hours explaining the intricacies of the white paper to one angler here in the NE.

So I emailed Graham with my suggestion of a question and that was "Would he be prepared to meet local anglers here in the NE on a face to face basis and answer questions before the closing date for the consultation on the white paper, be that specifically from his constituents or from the NE anglers as a whole?"

Graham has agreed that this is of far more benifit to us as local anglers in the NE than individual questions on a variety of topics. He has had a reply from David Miliband to say that he is prepared to meet him and myself ( in a capacity as the regional co-ordinator for the SACN and a member of the NSFC)and this is the question we will ask.

Depending on the time allowed and his answer to that question we will ask other questions as suggested here...but it is of far greater benifit to us all if we can manage to put such a meeting together.

If the answer we get is a Yes we will move heaven and earth to make sure the meeting takes place and allows NE RSA's to have their say.

I hope people agree that this is a very relevant question and would be in the inttrest of all NE sea anglers.

Cheers
Dave

[Charlie_Thompson]

My question was better Dave but I think yours comes a reasonable second. what if he says no though?

[Charlie_Thompson]

"Would he be prepared to meet local anglers here in the NE on a face to face basis

Apologies for flippancy but - if anyone's ever been to a weigh in at a big open comp, the Face to Face thing would scare the dibbins out of any half normal civilian let alone a finely honed beast like Millipede

[jamiebrennan]

Davem2005 and sless : Well done to you both, we need voices in this sport and your doing a grand job at putting our point across, i just hope they listen to us because if they dont then this sport as we know it is doomed!( in the style of the bloke in dads army!)
Charlie_Thompson : You talk a lot of sense but i love coming on here and reading your posts! Your a loony and i regularly wet myself reading your ramblings! Hero hero hero!

[Ian Alexander]

Meeting.

Sless and Davem2005; Good luck for your meeting lads and like you say there are many quetions that need answers so thanks in advance for your efforts.
Personaly If I could be assured that this planned license had our interests at heart then maybe I would welcome such a move.
However from what I have seen of it so far there are a lot of grey areas that need clarification, for instance the proposed restrictions on bait collecting (remember we have been here before on this one!) and angling within the zones or MPA's (marine protected areas). What and where will these zones be? Aren't we losing enough areas where we used to fish?
New Labour said when the hunting with dogs bill was imposed that it had no intention of targeting anglers but look what is being proposed now, or maybe it is just a case that someone has took notice of how many anglers there are, done the maths and thought "this will rake in the cash".
I hope not.