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  • Edible crab: the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth

    Just to put the matter straight, the byelaw clearly states that it is prohibited to use edible crab, otherwise known as brown crab (Cancer pagurus) as bait. This is a direct result of concerns by fisheries managers that an unknown quantity of edible (soft) crab was being used by the commercial sector as pot bait. The byelaw was not enacted originally to prohibit use by anglers, it was only at a later stage when the use of crab by recreational anglers became widespread. The definition was extended to include use by all stakeholder groups, with no exception.

    The arguement has been used in the past that \"I brought them from outside the area\", this arguement does and will not hold in a court of law. The defining word is USE, it doesn\'t matter where they came from, if the intention was to USE them as bait then the law has been broken.

    The crabs being purchased from tackle shops or chinese supermarkets are I believe non-native species and therefore are not included in any current byelaw and have no MLS attached. These are already frozen and as a consequence will not affect or impact on UK coastal fisheries. There is little chance of them being imported live, as a license would be required and stringent regulation of their movements and possible release into the wild would negate this.

    In addition to the prohibition on use of edibles, crabs are subject to MLS regulation. The edible MLS is 130mm along the Yorkshire and Northumberland coasts and practically all of the UK, the only exception being within the Eastern Sea Fisheries Joint Committee (the Wash) where the MLS is 115mm, this is due to the Wash fishery being driven by a predominantly juvenile stock recruited from the Yorkshire fishery.

    The only crab species described in the prohibition of usage as bait is the edible crab, however, velvet swimmer crab (Necora puber) are also covered within the MLS, which I think is 65mm.

    The problem arises when one sea fisheries committee has different byelaws, e.g. the Sussex SFC has no byelaw prohibiting the use of edible crab as bait. So potentially an angler may use it in Sussex, bring some up to Yorks or Northumberland for a fishing session/match and break the byelaw. Additional porblems occur when anglers are unaware of these regulations, as was recently discovered when an angler won a match using edible crab in an area where it is illegal to do so, should he have been disqualified?

    In Summary;

    a) You cannot use edible crab (Cancer pagurus) for bait

    b) All edible crab retained for consumption must be above 130mm (Yorkshire and Northumberland) or 115mm (The Wash)

    c) In Yorkshire you are allowed a daily maximum of 10 edible crabs, (not sure about Northumberland)

    d) Velvet swimming crab may be used as bait, however, they have to be larger than 65mm (CW)

    e) There are no restrictions on green shore crab (Carcinus maenas) or hermit crab (Pagurus bernhardus)

    f) Purchase or collection out of area if caught within the area is no defence, the byelaw states use or intent to use
    If it doesn't bite its not worth catching!!!

  • #2
    Thanks for that, Doc.

    I think that has got the hitherto \"grey area\" of the use of edible crab as bait comprehensively covered.

    Basically - DON\'T DO IT

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    • #3
      you don\'t need a licence to import any invertebrate. A friend of mince comes back from guyana twice a year and fills his suitcases with red kneed tarantulas. each one goes in a brown envelope and then the envelopes go in his suitcase!

      Whata treat for the customs boys!
      ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ.

      Thought for the day:
      Some people are like slinkies - not really good for anything but bring a smile to your face when thrown down the stairs

      Converting an MFV Fifie trawler type thing.

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      • #4
        Excellent post Doc. Thanks.
        Remember, some people are alive simply because it is illegal to shoot them.

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        • #5
          hello doc
          good points there
          do you know why there is never berried eater crabs on the sea shore
          we were talking the other day and we were saying there is loads of green crab berried but never see eater crabs like that
          thanks


          sless

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          • #6
            No problem Sless, do you want the short or the long explaination!!!!

            The reason you don\'t see berried edible crabs on the shore is that they migrate offshore as soon as they have paired and mated.

            Pairing and mating generally occurs inshore during July - September, the spawning occurs following the offshore migration which occurs from October - December. The berried and spawning females may remain offshore from December to June, although the inshore migration generally occurs from March - early September. Only the females migrate offshore to spawn, the mating with males already having been completed inshore, so there is no real requirement for the males to migrate offshore for recruitment purposes.

            The eggs hatch offshore between May - September, although peak activity occurs during July and August. The crab larvae migrate into the water column from May onwards with the last of the larvae settling out to the seabed during October.

            Hope this solves your query, by the way that was the condensed version.


            Cheers



            N.
            If it doesn't bite its not worth catching!!!

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            • #7
              thanks very much
              some one put on the board a while ago that i wasnt looking hard enough
              i thought i was right


              sless

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