december sea angler

[T.C.]

".......just recieved decembers issue of sea angler,same old articles........"

In a magazine which is dedicated to any 1 sport / pastime / hobby / interest, whatever you wanna call it, there's always gonna be a lot of repetition.......there's only so much you CAN say, really.

How often do we see the same old topics cropping up on here? - the same old questions which seem "basic" and "tedious" to some are bewildering and important to others.

It could be said that you only REALLY need to subscribe to a hobby magazine for a year - once the 2nd year comes around, the articles & features start on the same annual cycle again. I guess the same could be said of NESA regarding the info requested and the advice given.

[Beachlover]

Just to have my say regarding an earlier comment about the Zziplex and Abus, you are probably right about them not catching fish any better than a £30 kit from Argos (some of the time), but, I fish with a pair of Primo Synchros and couple them with Abu reels, Im no fantastic fisherman but at least when I go home empty handed I can relax in the knowledge that it wasn't my gear that let me down, it was either my ability or the fact that there are no fish there.

And that is worth it!

[Penn525]

".......just recieved decembers issue of sea angler,same old articles........"

In a magazine which is dedicated to any 1 sport / pastime / hobby / interest, whatever you wanna call it, there's always gonna be a lot of repetition.......there's only so much you CAN say, really.

How often do we see the same old topics cropping up on here? - the same old questions which seem "basic" and "tedious" to some are bewildering and important to others.

It could be said that you only REALLY need to subscribe to a hobby magazine for a year - once the 2nd year comes around, the articles & features start on the same annual cycle again. I guess the same could be said of NESA regarding the info requested and the advice given.

Very well said,
ever read a football mag??? 4-4-2...offside...right backs, wing backs, strikers...theres only so much you can write about football - but they keep doing it - and they keep selling!!

[T.C.]

Lol.........BTW.........................THIS subject has also been discussed several times on NESA and I always trot out the same old reply........just proves the point, really dunnit........lol

[tony.codling]

I used to go to sless's house to read it.

[Penn525]

full circle - probably be discussing this come next November.....lol

[T.C.]

Lol Paul,
Yep - I've got my standard reply saved in Word, ready for next year, m8

[willywetegg]

Lol, just gonna save the thread in favourites.

Jim.

[Stores]

How does this sound.....
If you know nothing about fishing you buy the mag and read everything.
If you know a bit about fishing you read most of it.
If you know a lot you read a little bit until.
If you know enough it's not worth buying it.

Within that there's the sub plot - I remember Gogs being the subject of a report by Steve Souter up Arbroath way and catching a 10lber. No mention of the mark, only the bait - crab and mackerel I think - so what have you learned? That crab and mackerel catch 10lbers? All the time? Hardly.
What you've got is a snapshot of an evenings fishing and an interesting and entertaining spread that is or is not worth £3 or whatever.
I have caught a lot of fish on Tynemouth Sands but the number caught on ragworm you can count on one hand - but one of that handful was a 12lber - does that mean that the best fish are caught on rag (stinking at that) No of course not. So even the catch reports need to be put into context and those that can fish do not run to, say, King Edwards Bay, just because there's a daft 6lber caught off the prom (which might be a month ago by the time the mags printed), even though it's a lovely fish.

The better you become at fishing the more you rely on your own judgement and less on the printed word is, I think, what I'm saying.

ARE YOU LISTENING ROD !!!!!!!!!! hahahah

[mark]

subscribe to a years issues, when they arrive, read it, put it in an envelope, mark the month on it and put to one side

next year find 'this month's' envelope, write your name and address on it and stick it in the post, 2 days later you'll recieve that months copy of sea angler, and you'll never know the difference


with the money you've saved you could buy some paint to put on your shed and watch dry in case the magazine feels a bit 'samey'

[BriH]

Neither of them or any good really - if you wanted to fish any part of the Northern Ireland coastline (which is part of the UK) you will be hard pushed to get ANY tips ,never mind any local info - i am transfering my subscribtion back to salmon and trout - and reading the above in supermarkets like like Al said earlier

[mark]

"Wombat Feltchers Monthly" is well worth subscribing to, get a free hat every month

[Lowrider]

Wel i enjoy reading both,not always great stuff every month but it is about differing views and ideas.
Always welcome in my book.
Much prefer these then some boring rubbish on football which does seem to be all the same drivel.
But at the end of the day as i feel sure has been said before,don't want it don't buy it.
Or do what many of the people who moan about it do,read it in Asda while getting in my way.

[lemmylad]

maybe I was a bit harsh in my previous post. I only started fishing last summer, and due to commitments, I spend more time reading about it than practicing it.
I bought 2 books (new) for about £7. Between these, I have a permanent reference of every knot and rig I could ever want and a few I won't, how to identify fish, a basic guide to tides and general mark types (beach / rock / pier etc).
I pay about £3 a month for the Sea Angler which did help with rig dimensions (I've always tied my own and only ever bought feathers pre-tied) but has generally provided just a couple of nice stories and a catalogue of tackle adverts. I work as an accountant in the media industry, and must disagree with the 'purchase price barely covering printing costs' comment. I suspect from the editorial standards (have you seen how many typo's there are?!) and the non-advertising features that costs are strictly budgeted and that the mag makes a healthy profit for the publisher.
Apologies for the rant, but when an 'advertisement feature' is listed as a cover story, that takes the biscuit. (See Rapala lures - SA Nov)
The type of content I would like to see is more along the lines of learning how to read the sea state, fish behaviour patterns etc.
So many 'rookies' like myself are deluded into thinking that they need top notch gear and a 250yd cast to catch fish, I'd guess that it detracts from the uptake of the sport. Of course, state of the art gear benefits those who have the ability to take advantage of it, and it is often advised that casting tuition should be sought, but surely it would be of more commercial benefit to get more people fishing (responsibly etc) and increase the political clout of anglers to benefit the sport in the long-term.
I could go on about this for ages (indeed I have!) but I hope I've brought up some valid points and stirred some thoughts.

[Stores]

http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44934

Sound familiar?