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This is in response to a previous thread posted by a new member Carl (welcome to NESA) asking for help on where to fish and camp in the north east, I thought I would post this myself rather than reply as I didn’t want to be seen as hijacking his thread out of respect just food for thought for others that may be interested in the subject of camping and fishing.
I`m into camping out and fishing and this year my brother and I are thinking of combining the two and getting one of these each in the following link
Here is also a good video to see what there capabilities are and many more in related video`s
Check out the stability it will carry all the gear including a bike if we needed to travel to a shop for previsions, anyone looking into it will soon realize there are different classes for how rough a river is, the class of the boat is mainly determined by the strength of the steel frame my intention is to make a new frame slightly wider for even more stability and stronger also making it adaptable for a sail and maybe make the frame convertible to a bike trailer all very doable for a basic DIY`er you can even mount an outboard on if you wished.
As for camp sites how much space do you need on a bank side to hang a hammock and a tarp? (two trees) however to save the possibility of causing or getting any grief you could contact land owners if camping on private land for permission or rig your boat to make it adaptable for sleeping on and anchor to a tree, if planned properly you could fish free stretches as long as you have the relevant rod license If the water is not club controlled land owners can be contacted for a fishing permit and buy permits before you set off for stretches that are club controlled.
However at the risk of causing an argument as you would not be fishing from the bank I would wonder if you would need a permit from a moving platform as you wouldn`t actually be on the land and I think the permit is more about access who’s to say if you didn’t access via either side of the river which side gets the permit fee I wonder.
The reason I question this is in the past it was a hobby of mine to dive in rivers and the police told me I could just about dive any ware if it wasn`t private water it was more about access, this is how the law stood at the time if I wished to dive an area that access was over private land I could not do this without the landowners permission unless there was a public right of way along the river bank but if there was a public walkway further up or down stream I could access the river at this point and swim to the intended area as the landowner cannot own the water and in fact would need a license himself to take water from the river.
I tested this twice one landowner looked really unhappy when he called the police after I refused to leave they turned up and asked him to explain which bit of the water did he think he owned that has just gone by and stop wasting there time and I know of a landowner that charges about 10 quid to park a car on his land to have a picnic next to the river, he saw me park my car on the main road and gain access to his land via the public footpath that was signposted that ran along the river bank I stopped next to the river for a picnic with my family and he tried to have me arrested for having a picnic on a public footpath.
The Police turned up and said it would be against the law if the farmer had stopped me from using a public right of way also to charge a toll for the use of the public right of way we know of no law that says you must not stop on a public footpath for a picnic and as my vehicle was not on his land I had as much right to be there as any of the possibly 200 people that had give him nearly 10 quid seems to us the gentleman is well within his rights and you owe him and his family an apology for any upset caused whilst lawfully going about there business so there’s room for research hear.
Anyway our initial plan is to study a suitable river with the use of Google earth which can easily be printed out and laminated as a river map combined with an ordinary map taking note of bridges and landmarks turns in the river to know your location whilst on route also take a length of rope to lower the pontoon down rapids that you may feel unsure about riding yourself then plan if you intend going all the way to the coast or a suitable place that could be prearranged for pick up or traveling back for our vehicle left somewhere safe via public transport leaving someone with the equipment for safety.
Some models fit in a rucksack so there could be many traveling arrangements and with a bit of good planning each year try a new river/lake for fun, now could you see yourself in the summer on a slow drift on a river or lake with a spinning/fly rod or both and BBQ fish for your evening meal that’s what I call a fishing trip and a trip a youngster would never forget, he or she would think they were a modern day Huckleberry Finn LOL.
I’ve done some homework on these boats for choice and cost in the following link is a company I have contacted myself that will send one from the USA for about 40 quid by air mail receive it in 10 days 30 if you wanted to wait 90 days by land and sea plus the cost of the boat to get more choice and possibly cheaper than in the UK although they did say you would need to check if there is any import duty and the payment needs to be in dollars arranged by your bank they don’t do conversions, look at their other stuff on the site its interesting I have looked at forums where people have bought through this company and recommend them as a reputable company but obviously give no guarantee myself.
Cabela's -- Pontoons
But I also know of a company in the UK that retails a few models at about 300 quid with ex demo`s half price.
Other ideas I had if these boats were to become popular and owned by a few including kayakers
• Lakes District meet-ups fishing comps.
• Group River runs.
• Survival weekend river run trips (catch your eat)
• Inshore bay fishing (within reason conditions permitting as I have read in a wind they can drift fast)
• Scotland has the right to roam so has many options.
• If you lived in a town on the river even better just get dropped off upstream for a home run.
• With research some rivers have caravan sites on the banks with river access get the missus to drop you off upstream from the caravan site she could be sunning herself while you’re on the river run
Or am I nuts
Lorry
I`m into camping out and fishing and this year my brother and I are thinking of combining the two and getting one of these each in the following link
Here is also a good video to see what there capabilities are and many more in related video`s
Check out the stability it will carry all the gear including a bike if we needed to travel to a shop for previsions, anyone looking into it will soon realize there are different classes for how rough a river is, the class of the boat is mainly determined by the strength of the steel frame my intention is to make a new frame slightly wider for even more stability and stronger also making it adaptable for a sail and maybe make the frame convertible to a bike trailer all very doable for a basic DIY`er you can even mount an outboard on if you wished.
As for camp sites how much space do you need on a bank side to hang a hammock and a tarp? (two trees) however to save the possibility of causing or getting any grief you could contact land owners if camping on private land for permission or rig your boat to make it adaptable for sleeping on and anchor to a tree, if planned properly you could fish free stretches as long as you have the relevant rod license If the water is not club controlled land owners can be contacted for a fishing permit and buy permits before you set off for stretches that are club controlled.
However at the risk of causing an argument as you would not be fishing from the bank I would wonder if you would need a permit from a moving platform as you wouldn`t actually be on the land and I think the permit is more about access who’s to say if you didn’t access via either side of the river which side gets the permit fee I wonder.
The reason I question this is in the past it was a hobby of mine to dive in rivers and the police told me I could just about dive any ware if it wasn`t private water it was more about access, this is how the law stood at the time if I wished to dive an area that access was over private land I could not do this without the landowners permission unless there was a public right of way along the river bank but if there was a public walkway further up or down stream I could access the river at this point and swim to the intended area as the landowner cannot own the water and in fact would need a license himself to take water from the river.
I tested this twice one landowner looked really unhappy when he called the police after I refused to leave they turned up and asked him to explain which bit of the water did he think he owned that has just gone by and stop wasting there time and I know of a landowner that charges about 10 quid to park a car on his land to have a picnic next to the river, he saw me park my car on the main road and gain access to his land via the public footpath that was signposted that ran along the river bank I stopped next to the river for a picnic with my family and he tried to have me arrested for having a picnic on a public footpath.
The Police turned up and said it would be against the law if the farmer had stopped me from using a public right of way also to charge a toll for the use of the public right of way we know of no law that says you must not stop on a public footpath for a picnic and as my vehicle was not on his land I had as much right to be there as any of the possibly 200 people that had give him nearly 10 quid seems to us the gentleman is well within his rights and you owe him and his family an apology for any upset caused whilst lawfully going about there business so there’s room for research hear.
Anyway our initial plan is to study a suitable river with the use of Google earth which can easily be printed out and laminated as a river map combined with an ordinary map taking note of bridges and landmarks turns in the river to know your location whilst on route also take a length of rope to lower the pontoon down rapids that you may feel unsure about riding yourself then plan if you intend going all the way to the coast or a suitable place that could be prearranged for pick up or traveling back for our vehicle left somewhere safe via public transport leaving someone with the equipment for safety.
Some models fit in a rucksack so there could be many traveling arrangements and with a bit of good planning each year try a new river/lake for fun, now could you see yourself in the summer on a slow drift on a river or lake with a spinning/fly rod or both and BBQ fish for your evening meal that’s what I call a fishing trip and a trip a youngster would never forget, he or she would think they were a modern day Huckleberry Finn LOL.
I’ve done some homework on these boats for choice and cost in the following link is a company I have contacted myself that will send one from the USA for about 40 quid by air mail receive it in 10 days 30 if you wanted to wait 90 days by land and sea plus the cost of the boat to get more choice and possibly cheaper than in the UK although they did say you would need to check if there is any import duty and the payment needs to be in dollars arranged by your bank they don’t do conversions, look at their other stuff on the site its interesting I have looked at forums where people have bought through this company and recommend them as a reputable company but obviously give no guarantee myself.
Cabela's -- Pontoons
But I also know of a company in the UK that retails a few models at about 300 quid with ex demo`s half price.
Other ideas I had if these boats were to become popular and owned by a few including kayakers
• Lakes District meet-ups fishing comps.
• Group River runs.
• Survival weekend river run trips (catch your eat)
• Inshore bay fishing (within reason conditions permitting as I have read in a wind they can drift fast)
• Scotland has the right to roam so has many options.
• If you lived in a town on the river even better just get dropped off upstream for a home run.
• With research some rivers have caravan sites on the banks with river access get the missus to drop you off upstream from the caravan site she could be sunning herself while you’re on the river run
Or am I nuts
Lorry
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