New boat - Winter project

[lingking]

im sure there was 1 of them at loch etive Taynuilt i might be wrong they look simular when we visited and hired a boat for the day trip out on dougys moorings maybe he might know what type of vessel ya bought
Taynuilt fishing club, fishing on Loch Etive in Taynuilt near Oban Scotland

and also looks like this one
20ft fishing boat pics - Bing Images

good bit of detective work o great cod master

[Funkmeister_Smith]

You may not get the chance to sell it on as if it is unstable big engine / high gunnels or not wont stop it rolling over


Get it checked out before trying it on the sea as surely your life is worth more than that risk


Sean

So where would I get my boat checked out and what sort of costs would I be looking at to do so? I do agree it is worth getting checked out and would be happy to do that before taking her out to sea. Do they check it by taking it out to sea themselves or is it a case of looking it over, taking measurements etc. based on some sort of 'sea worthiness threshold', if you catch my drift? (again, no pun intended! ). Only reason I ask is because when you read articles related to sea-worthiness it has so many different things to take into consideration and going by them it makes it sound to the novice (ie me), that it would in fact be sea worthy, regardless of the flat bottom etc, because it is compensated in other 'more important' areas? Confusing! Agree that it would be best to get it checked out properly though, it is definitely worth less than my life.

Also, seems ironic to me that a model of boat called a 'Seamaster' is not actually fit for use in the sea!! Maybe 'Rivermaster' would have been a better choice of brand name!

Cheers.

Steve

[codseeker]

i carnt see it been any problem on a nice flat sea obviously ya wudnt wanna go out otherwise

[easyfish1]

So where would I get my boat checked out and what sort of costs would I be looking at to do so? I do agree it is worth getting checked out and would be happy to do that before taking her out to sea. Do they check it by taking it out to sea themselves or is it a case of looking it over, taking measurements etc. based on some sort of 'sea worthiness threshold', if you catch my drift? (again, no pun intended! ). Only reason I ask is because when you read articles related to sea-worthiness it has so many different things to take into consideration and going by them it makes it sound to the novice (ie me), that it would in fact be sea worthy, regardless of the flat bottom etc, because it is compensated in other 'more important' areas? Confusing! Agree that it would be best to get it checked out properly though, it is definitely worth less than my life.

Also, seems ironic to me that a model of boat called a 'Seamaster' is not actually fit for use in the sea!! Maybe 'Rivermaster' would have been a better choice of brand name!

Cheers.

Steve

RLNI do a sea check for free, check the web site out

[big_sean]

RLNI do a sea check for free, check the web site out

Excellent post

Take the RNLI's advice and if they say dont as if you do and get into trouble you will be then putting there lives in danger by them having to come for you

Cheap boats are not always the best the reason they are generally so cheap is no one quite knows what they were

Dont forget that Glass fibre boats can be 40+ years old now as when they started using it they didnt realise how long it would last

I have a close friend who lost family members on a boat and last year someone bought one he explained that they are very unstable but they were going to try it idiots in my mind

all i can say is it does not look very stable from the pictures i may be wrong but it costs nothing to get them checked.

Sean

[big_sean]

i carnt see it been any problem on a nice flat sea obviously ya wudnt wanna go out otherwise

Coddy

its ok when you go out and its flat then a little breeze gets up oops time to go home and a side one tips you over

My boat you went out on was a 1973 hull but probably one of the best sea designs out

they are still using that hull mould today in other boats


Sean

[codseeker]

fair point sean yup atleast get it checked out first

[canman]

As regards the flat bottom, I don't think that it is too much of a problem, as the Reiver mk1 boats, 15 & 18ft had flat bottoms, and they are still being used today.

[codseeker]

our lass had a flat bottom also too much sitting on her @rse all day deeing nowt i got rid

[big_sean]

As regards the flat bottom, I don't think that it is too much of a problem, as the Reiver mk1 boats, 15 & 18ft had flat bottoms, and they are still being used today.

The reiver had a nice flared bow and was made for the sea

All i am saying is does not look very stable and no one actually knows what it is so how can you compare it with a well known brand like a reiver ?

It is so easy to get into trouble at sea and lose ones life

Is it really worth it ?

Sean

[Funkmeister_Smith]

Great advice on the RNLI - I had a look on their website and it sounds like they do a great service, and for free! (I would of course make a donation however). I think I may get my other boat checked over too, can't be too careful.

So in the meantime, you mention about the 'nice flared bow' on the Reiver, I will post another picture up taken from the front of my boat as I think this also has a reasonably flared bow, comparible to the 'Norman' boats mentioned in previous posts (incidently, there is a Norman boat which looks quite similiar for sale local on Gumtree right now).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing the fact that this boat was probably more aimed at being a river cruiser than an offshore cruiser, and I appreciate your opinion and safety definitely comes first, but it would be nice to think that I could keep her for use at sea rather than it just being a money-making project. We'll see what the RNLI say, but that will be a while away yet I think. Got a lot of painting to do in the meantime (and alot of sanding before that - previous owner used household gloss on the cabin! ).

Thanks for all your replies, I feel this has been a very useful thread, certainly for me and I will definitely be getting my boat(s) checked by the RNLI.

All the best.

Steve

*final note -out of sheer curiosity regarding flat bottom vs 'V' shape hull- would my other 17ft open top displacement hull boat be considered as 'more stable and seaworthy' than this 20ft flat bottom boat, or does the bigger size, deck space, higher gunnels play a part? Ive been caught out in some pretty horrible seas in my 17ft and she's been fine, alebeit a bit lumpy and slow given the speed restraints on the hull design. Just curious, not really important, but my other boat is the only benchmark I have really.

[big_sean]

Any pictures you can post will help

Also check its not bent as the support on the trailer looks very minimal and this can if a boat has sat on it for ages warp the boat and make it look like a banana and this seriously affects the handling


Check your Pm's

Sean

[Funkmeister_Smith]

not the greatest of photo's, in fact pretty terrible but its the best I can do whilst at work. Should be up working on the boat again at the weekend so I'll take a few then of the front and back as requested.

Thanks for your help, really appreciated. Just read your PM, will reply soon!

Cheers.

Steve

[Funkmeister_Smith]

Oh and re the trailor - yes, it is definitely not a very snug fit shall we say, its not designed for this boat I assume. Fixing the trailor is on the to-do list (i.e. sorting the wheels out, amending it to correctly hold our boat, painting it etc), and we are looking to shift the boat off it soon, definitely when it needs antifouled etc. but sooner rather than later as you say.

Cheers.

Steve

[micky adams]

Lucks like a shetlend boat mt