Bass puzzle

[DaveMason]

If we have big bass from our shoreline ( which we do ) , why is none caught from the wrecks like down south . I have never heard of one from the wrecks , anyone else ???

[KeithB]

I\'ve never seen one Dave, would like to though!

We also don\'t see many haddock, I caught one earlier in the year off the hard ground at Marsden, first I\'ve ever seen.

[Marc]

I had haddock this year aswell keith, From just of the firing range

[jeff]

Hi Lads,

Volante has seen no Bass on wrecks either.We have picked up a couple of Haddock though Keith....probably by pure chance and it\'s not something we come across often.

Jeff.

[DaveMason]

We had a lot of haddock this year , not big though . All came of soft bottom at various distances . If there was any bass on the wrecks , someone would have pulled one by now with all the shads and stuff . odd that ?

[Ell]

Musn\'t be there Dave! For what reason?

[john.frain]

could it possibly be to do with water temprature, not to sure if there is much difference between north and south, but maybe only slight differences prevent bass from going to various marks or wrecks etc....

just a thought

also when i fish down the thames estuary at least 5-6 times a year the bass that are caught large or small are usually caught in marks that feature on the sounder as sand bars etc not so much wrecks...

john

[willywetegg]

We all had this convo last year lol. Has anyone gone out to specifically target Bass yet? You never know it might make a difference.

Jim.

[CODHEAD]

marc,
20 years ago souter point area was a big haddack area its been fishes out ,lets hope there returning

[DaveMason]

Since last years convo on bass , I have not targeted them but the boat tactics have changed with all manner of shads , twin-tails etc used and all proven bass catchers . You would of thought with all the varied methods at least one would have popped up . Take your point about the sandbanks John , and we are working on it

[john.frain]

also found that the types of bait used makes a massive difference have tried live peeler crab and they would not touch it where as you stick a whole squid or large sandeel on and you stand a good chance, the best killer bait i used was live hermit crab

john

[tich]

How the hell & were the hell do you get live hermit crab from, Ihave tried picking winkles when the fishing is quiet,& have come accross a few, tried smashing their shells with a stone,to get them out but without much luck, Cheers for any info + are they good for any other fish, I take it you just hook them up best you can Cheers Tich

[john.frain]

what we do is put a drop net down out the back of the boat with a couple of mackeral / cods heads etc in and then just check it every 15 mins put them in the live bucket and hang them over the side of the boat. they will stay there quite happily until next time you want fresh bait.
Now this was done in the thames estuary would be intresting to see what you would pull up from our waters.
As for other species we have caught smoothound on them and thornback ray.....

also was over on the west coast for a week fishing in october was a lad digging for bait and he was also getting large hermit in the muscle beds he was digging in..

john

[CODHEAD]

john your a wealth off knowledge lol

ps jeff said he had been around yours to put some calamine lotion on your scabs ,i thought that was a bit personell

[john.frain]

looking good mate, think jeff is out tomorrow with us find out tonight you managed to wangle it.......

as for calamine, is that what he calls it lol...........

john

[Edited on 10/12/2004 by john.frain]