Very little choice

[northeast1]

I am looking for a inboard with out a turbo with a bhp around 105-115bhp...happy to take on abit more debt to get the right boat but the right boat has not came up for over a year now so long search ahead...and even longer if my boat is sold in Oct when she goes up for sale, i will have nothing to clean or mess with over the boring winter days.

[KeithB]

Richy, I'm no expert but I would of thought any diesel that is over 100HP and doesn't have a turbo would have to be a massive 6 cylinder job.

[northeast1]

I think the Volvo Penta's are 105-115bhp with out the turbo and it is mainly the Toyota engines that have the turbo's on. The nanni engines are 5 cylinder and dont have one on if i am right..like i say the choice is not good for my spec..only 3 class/types of boats fit the bill

[KeithB]

Slinky Kate - out of Royal Quays

21ft (6.25mtr) Ocqueteau 625
105hp Volvo TDI Diesel inboard shaft drive
2 GPS
2 Sonar
DSC VHF listening ch6

[northeast1]

Only thing been putting my off the turbo is that the reports of the Arvor turbos going go on a mile and the engineer i was speaking with at the Royal Quays said for every 5 engine jobs he gets called out for 2 of them will be broken turbo's

[KeithB]

Sure I read somewhere about Arvor's with the VW engine having probs (on WSF I think) but don't think Norman's ever had any bother with the turbo on his engine, and we all know Slinky only does one speed

[Kev1n]

I was in the same position last year which is when I was put off the Arvors by the reports of turbo failure. All the turbo problems I read about were related specifically to the VW engines, even Arvor have stopped using these now. The VW engine was a marinised car engine which is designed to speed-up and slow down a lot, this means the turbo’s waste gate is continuously moving unlike on a boat where the engine is opened up to a cruising speed and left there and eventually seize.
Ocqueteaus are usually fitted with the Toyota based Nanni engine which seem pretty reliable so I was happy to look at this option. Oddly, the 115hp Nanni has a capacity of about 3.8L and still relies on the turbo to boost output although it only revs to 2800RPM.
Regular maintainance helps keep turbos in good condition, hence the adage “old turbos don’t die, they are killed.” Regular oil changes and allowing time for them to warm up before high revs and cool down by idling for a few minutes before turning the engine off helps prolong turbo life.

[northeast1]

All good points and views and a lot to take in for the next purchase.

I have set in my mind 3 boats now and also the engine and size so almost there

[oldessox]

All good points and views and a lot to take in for the next purchase.

I have set in my mind 3 boats now and also the engine and size so almost there

What are your thoughts on diesel v petrol engines Rich? Or more to the point inboard shaft v outboard v sterndrive options , I don't know jack about boats , but some that do on other forums had me convinced an inboard would be a better fishing vessel due to the weight being in the centre of the boat , I'm not so sure now
My preferences are Arvor 215 , beneteau antares 620/680 or a Quicksilver 640 , though there are plenty more out there that tick the right boxes , when the time comes it'll be the deal that swings it rather than a particular boat I suspect.

Ray

[jason]

Sure I read somewhere about Arvor's with the VW engine having probs (on WSF I think) but don't think Norman's ever had any bother with the turbo on his engine, and we all know Slinky only does one speed

your quite wrong there Keith it does 2 speeds - fast and stop.

[batt22]

are colvic watson boats any good ?

[northeast1]

I would say the main down side on the outboards was the fuel cost but since it is almost the same now then its up in the air. For me i like the inboard engines, never been a fan of the out boards, being from a engineering back ground just something about the engine noise and a poxi bit of plastic and metal on the back to a big chunk of cast iron and steal in the middle.

So i would say not much between inboard and outboard from many aspects.

[krysb]

Jeanneau merry fisher 635 for sale - World Sea Fishing Forums


looks reasonable??

krysb

[Norman]

agree with richie on his last post that I also prefer an inboard and shaft, in fact it was originally my main must have list 1) inboard 2) Diesel 3) shaft .... but as richie rightly says a lot was based on price of red deisel so am not quite as sure if I were buying new now (although I`d never swop inboard at the moment )

my only point of wonder is that now Slinky Kate is over 10 years old, all systems are ok but I did look to re-engine as maybe a bonus for the future ...
but its not really possible as I would have to go for a new type engine completely which would be difficult to fit but moreover to obtain the 105 HP equivalent it is in the region of £15K (plus the fittings)
whereas an outboard would have been a 2 day job and at half the cost

just a point to clear here, what does everyone mean by the VW engine ?
I have a volvo penta marine .... VW is volkswagon ?



norm

[KeithB]

We mean the VW's in the Arvors Norman.